Comments on: Whose Story Must Be History?

By: Vangi

Vangi — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:28:36 +0000

Thank you Khaya!!

I’ve been having this conversation with a lot of my friends. I think your point about the courts needing to decide who’s history is worth preserving is so important and will set a precedence. I don’t believe the context in which Malema sung the song was as intellectual as you outline but I do think it was a deliberate attempt to hold black south africans as ANC/struggle politics’ hostages and make us feel more loyal towards the ANC. The same goes with Mshini wam. That being said, who is to say they’re not allowed to do that? It is politics after all. The Afriforums of this country are also using this as aa way to get people to move away from struggle politics because it doesn’t serve them in the slightest to have a majority of people who remember. That “Let’s move on” mentality is what they’re tryna push. Politics has never been pretty or transparent (it just tries to appear that way).

I honestly think it would be a very sad day for our judiciary if the song was banned. And it would have a disastrous ripple effect on what parts of our

By: nux

nux — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:44:19 +0000

History is indeed a weapon, we find our selves in this compromised position as race for we know very lrss about our history which is been written by the same offended white man well no offence taken for it wouldn’t make a difference at this point.
But we all know in what context malema sang the song and with all sanity sat forth we know we should not embrace his pespective. He has said a lot of very unintellectual staff for the word interlectual to even thrown aeound in both of you’s verbatim.
My mom died 4 years back from some kind of internal bleeding h occured somewhere around her bullet wound was which she had june 16 1976, as much as can claim to be healed I can never ignore the imotional phsychological stain it left me with.
Point is history is never to be forgoten, but well documented by its owners and not to be used to throw empty brained weight with because one can.
We have much more pressing issues that need our interllect. One can only imagine how the name Julius Malema will go down both the african and afrikanner history books since they exist in duality and struggle for validation

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:29:07 +0000

K, m not trying to make a righteous point here, but wat’s that saying about 2wrongs? Pls, don’t even try separating Malema, the personality, from that song. U have heard his utterances on white ppl ryt, it would be euphemistic to say they border on racism. I merely made the comparison to show that, HISTORY does not justify WRONG. That song was not written in stone as some gospel truth. Kill for WHAT? So apartheid was overthrown, that validates the song in a democratic context how? If u say it’s freedom of speech, then u have no ryt to be offended by being called a kaffir, if they say they offended, they offended, sing it at your gatherings then. So it’s freedom of speech until u r the offended one? Because kaffir does not mean black, does it? Anyone can justify wrong khaya, sometimes we stand for things spoken by man like they where written by God (not like we respect His words either) Cast in stone. In fact, we r were we r because we’ve been bought by our “Liberaters.”

By: Khaya

Khaya — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:39:23 +0000

Gambit,I,obviously,disagree with your assertion.the song has always been there and being sung in the anc circles.just because Julius Malema sang the song it becomes controversial?lets bare in mind that the apartheid state was an illegitimate and inhumane goverment and the Struggle songs by liberation movements cant be compared to the “only good kaffir is a dead kaffir” songs whose source is hatred.the liberation movements sought to give the country a more human face,whether or not thats been achieved is something else.why do afriforum want to ban the song?this is the same afriforum that threatened to stop banking with absa,who sponsor club and national rugby,dared too question the lack of transformation in rugby.what inspired Malema to sing the song is unknown to us and perhaps he had his own agendas but that song doesnt belong to him alone.so dialogue would have been a better route not running to the courts.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:01:00 +0000

I’m not saying the past should remain in the past, coz we’d jus repeat the errors of the past (which we actually are) History taught Afrikaner’s slogans such as,”the only good kaffir is a dead kaffir,” should that history be used in their nostalgia? would blacks be comfortable? No where in that slogan do they say blak, but we’d know it was meant for us. So y try be intellectual about the contents of our song wen we know malema neva uses such.. How many young blak africans singing this song are taught that the song is not intended in a bad way or to the aggrieved victims?
Two faced, thats wat many ppl pro many of our politicians utterances are. While we complian about wat our politicians r doing/saying… Let us not forget, we watered this tree… Seemingly, “the apple…”